Michael Rogers, vice president communications for the Small Business Association of Michigan, talks with Linda Daichendt, executive director of the Mobile Technology Association of Michigan, about the fitful progress of self-driving cars, how tech companies can better relate to seniors, the importance of Facebook’s Messenger Bot Store, car buyer willingness to pay extra for Wi-Fi in their vehicles, tech companies helping cities untangle traffic snarls and ponderings on the popularity of vinyl records and other obsolete technology.